the question was not if milkv can replace the SG2380 on the oasis, but rather if they could work on a different device with the same class of performance
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If you look at the history of Milk-v hardware it has been find a good SoC, and design a board around it.
So the question is which company about 2 years ago started to make a new SoC with good performance. Becase it typically takes 2 years and a million to go from the idea of a new SoC to holding a fully working silicon device in your hand.
I suspect there are many on the way, but until they land, we will not see an appropriate Milk-v board take off.
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Hello, I recently learned about this SoC and board. For $120 it seems like very good value. It being suitable for desktop usage is nice since Iâm trying to switch away from x86 (and ARM).
Iâm also glad it supports (inline) ECC, itâs a very underrated feature.
I echo the request for more news regarding availability.
A few questions:
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From what I find the AXT-16-512 is a capable GPU but driver support is poor. Will there be a Linux distro that supports the GPU?
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The NPU looks interesting, though I have no experience with such a thing. In lieu of experimenting with this board, which (cheap) board would be good to learn how it works?
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Which PSU should I get for this board (how many watts)?
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Imagination GPUs at time of writing require custom drivers from the board vendor, meaning normal distro isos wonâ,t support it and youâll need an installer that MilkV has blessed to get it running. I vaguely remember something about them upstreaming eventually, but donât bank on that.
Dunno anything about the NPU personally.
I think I have a 650W ATX power supply for my Jupiter, but it doesnât pull anything aside from the 24-pin. Board pinout doesnât list an additional ATX CPU header, so if youâre just powering the board youâll probably need like a 90-100W unit at minimum, and most of that is for overhead for the PCIE lanes. ATX supplies under 500W that donât look like ewaste are damn hard to find though.
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It seems more and more likely that this product will never come out. Sophgoâs going to get banned in the US. It wonât be manufactured at TSMC.
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I live in germany, where Sophgo isnât bannedâŚso, on a pure technicality, I could still buy it. But what would the ban have to do with manufacturing at TSMC?
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Apparently TSMC has suspended orders for SOPHGO since October because of US sanctions.
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TSMC manufactures chips for very important US companies (Apple). It will comply with US sanctions and wonât manufacture chips for Sophgo, like it does already for Huawei.
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Does the Oasis have a 12v DC power jack and SATA Power out connectors like the Jupiter?
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If the oasis doesnât sell, what happens to the deposit?
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I only bought 1 deposit but itâs not hard to imagine some people bought hundreds. The refund through Arace should be easy to do, I think. If you bought using paypal or a credit card, simply dispute the charge (if this product gets cancelled)
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Suggestion to Milk-V and Sophgo:
How about having a different company, completely unrelated, say âTaffygoâ gets TSMC to fab their new SoC, say their âTG2038â?
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On a more serious note, has there been any statement on what node they were planning to use for this SoC? Is it maybe 12nm? I believe SMIC is able to fab 12nm, right?
Is it possible that this isnât dead yet, and we might instead be able to see it come from SMICâs fabs? Too much copium maybe?
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Itâs one thing to design the SoC, but a whole different to translate that design into an actual order to a fab, I would imagine. I am no expert, but considering how few fabs for high-density (or rather, âlow nm sizeâ) chips there are, chances are that there is a whole process about placing the order involved - not just sampling and validating.
I am still hopeful, but sadly, many eastern companies (most notably in China, but not just) arenât very talkactive⌠unfortunately.
Hopefuly there will be some kind of update soon. Wish we could get a âbig nameâ into this situation - they are much more likely to get a response from either Milk-V or Sophgo. Hah, if weâre coping already, might as well hope LTT could lean into this - thatâd sure be one heck of an attention grabber and a reason for them to respond, lol.
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To All Supporters of Milk-V Oasis:
Milk-V Oasis is one of the most anticipated projects of both Milk-V and RISC-V. Since its inception, we have strived to make Milk-V Oasis the most stunning RISC-V product ever created. However, due to various uncontrollable factors, we are still unable to bring this product to market as of today.
Given the prolonged development cycle and the exceptionally high expectations from our users, coupled with the fact that we cannot provide an accurate launch timeline, we have decided to issue a full refund for all coupons purchased during the pre-order phase.
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At the design stage, the SG2380 team accounted for potential risks and opted for a mature process technology, ensuring that SG2380 could be manufactured using technologies not subject to U.S. advanced process restrictions. While Milk-V Oasis is being put on hold for now, we do not rule out the possibility of reintroducing it in the future. We bid farewell for now and hope to meet again someday.
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Thank you for this lengthy and detailed reply - 'tis surely was needed.
Looking forward to the other projects - like the Cluster 0B et cetera. Hopefuly the Oasis can come to fruition eventually!
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Thank you so much for the update, itâs a bummer to hear, but Iâm glad to hear that it still might have a future and Iâm definitely going to be keeping my place in line.
Hopefully weâll see itâs return sooner rather than later.
Either way Iâm still looking forward to it whenever it comes around.
Thank you!
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